{"id":3248,"date":"2010-06-07T11:07:39","date_gmt":"2010-06-07T17:07:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.myphillylawyer.com\/?p=791"},"modified":"2018-06-28T18:30:37","modified_gmt":"2018-06-28T23:30:37","slug":"stupid-traffic-law-ohio-court-rules-that-cops-can-ticket-you-for-speeding-if-it-looks-like-youre-speeding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.myphillylawyer.com\/yue\/2010\/06\/07\/stupid-traffic-law-ohio-court-rules-that-cops-can-ticket-you-for-speeding-if-it-looks-like-youre-speeding\/","title":{"rendered":"Stupid traffic law: Ohio court rules that cops can ticket you for speeding if it &#8220;looks like&#8221; you&#8217;re speeding"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now here&#8217;s a truly bogus traffic law.<\/p>\n<p>In a 5-1 ruling, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled last week that police officers can pull you over and legally ticket you <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenewspaper.com\/rlc\/docs\/2010\/oh-visual.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">if it &#8220;appears&#8221; to the officer that you are speeding<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_794\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-794\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-794\" title=\"June 7 speed ticket iStock_000010823657XSmall\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.myphillylawyer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/June-7-speed-ticket-iStock_000010823657XSmall-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\"><p id=\"caption-attachment-794\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image credit: \u00a9 iStockphoto.com\/Stratol<\/p><\/div>\n<p>No radar is needed.<\/p>\n<p>No mechanized speed checks required.<\/p>\n<p>No VASCAR timing has to be set up.<\/p>\n<p>None of those are needed in Ohio anymore.<\/p>\n<p>Nope.\u00a0 Just a cop deciding that you are &#8220;speeding.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So how did the court come up with such a brilliant standard?<\/p>\n<p>Get this:\u00a0 the court ruled that it&#8217;s just fine for an officer to estimate a driver&#8217;s speed if the officer is experienced in pursuing speeders or has been properly trained in police work, according to a story on <em>Ohio.com<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Now you can get a speeding ticket in Ohio, which will hike your insurance rates and cost you a bunch of money, based on an arbitrary, split-second, out-of-the-blue &#8220;estimate&#8221; from the friendly neighborhood police officer who wants to ruin your day.<\/p>\n<p>Under this new legal interpretation ordered by the court, Ohio police won&#8217;t be required to verify a driver&#8217;s speed with any kind of measuring equipment that can allegedly prove the speed in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s just the stupidest, most outrageous and unfair ruling by a court in quite a while.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s next?<\/p>\n<p>Will Ohio cops soon no longer be giving <a href=\"http:\/\/electronics.howstuffworks.com\/gadgets\/automotive\/breathalyzer.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Breathalyzer tests<\/a> or obtain blood tests for suspected drunk drivers and instead &#8220;estimate&#8221; or &#8220;guess&#8221;\u00a0 if that driver is drunk, based on the officer&#8217;s seat-of-the-pants knowledge and experience?<\/p>\n<p>Will an Ohio cop next be able to &#8220;guess&#8221; that a car is stolen by observing it driving down the road and heeding to his &#8220;experience,&#8221; instead of checking a license plate number in a law enforcement database and confirming that the vehicle was actually reported stolen?<\/p>\n<p>What in the world was the Ohio Supreme Court thinking?<\/p>\n<p>This is a bad and dangerous ruling by the court and a ridiculous extension of the state&#8217;s powers that is in complete disregard for due process and fairness for every motorist.<\/p>\n<p>In the Ohio case, according to the <em>Ohio.com<\/em> story, a driver in the town on Copley challenged a speeding ticket because it was issued based on the police officer&#8217;s visual observations and not on any type of mechanized or electronic speed analysis. &#8220;The officer said it appeared to him that the man was driving too fast,&#8221; according to <em>Ohio.com<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s hope that other states don&#8217;t follow this poor excuse for a reasonable traffic law.<\/p>\n<p>Human beings, including police officers, are certainly not infallible.<\/p>\n<p>Allowing the police to arbitrarily and legally &#8220;estimate&#8221; a driver&#8217;s speed in a moving vehicle for the issuance of a traffic ticket might be one of the most ridiculous decisions issued by a court in long, long time.<\/p>\n<p>Even when police officers use radar, VASCAR and other speed-estimating equipment, they can make mistakes with calibration, operation and procedures. Now they&#8217;ll just essentially be able to &#8220;guess&#8221; your speed?<\/p>\n<p>Utterly preposterous.<\/p>\n<p>So how&#8217;s a driver to protect himself from such a law?<\/p>\n<p>First, certainly avoid driving in Ohio until this outrageous and invasive ruling is overturned by a higher court in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Also, never admit anything to an officer if you are stopped for a traffic violation.<\/p>\n<p>And if you are ticketed, based on a cop&#8217;s &#8220;guess&#8221; or on the readings of a speed-tracking device, be sure to talk to a lawyer and get legal advice on how to best proceed.<\/p>\n<p>Remember &#8212;\u00a0 just because a police officer&#8217;s measurement machine appears to show that you were speeding, that doesn&#8217;t mean that you were traveling too fast. Mistakes happen, even with machines.<\/p>\n<p>Can you imagine how flagrant such mistakes will be now in Ohio, based on a police officer&#8217;s speed &#8220;estimates?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ohio drivers had better beware.<\/p>\n<p>Oh yes, and look like you&#8217;re driving slowly, whatever that looks like.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now here&#8217;s a truly bogus traffic law. In a 5-1 ruling, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled last week that police officers can pull you over and legally ticket you if it &#8220;appears&#8221; to the officer that you are speeding. No radar is needed. No mechanized speed checks required. 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